Posts by Captain Obvious

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Atheists, here is a 'balls' question ---even for all---

by prologos in

it is very difficult to knock a ball into a hole (like golf), throw it into a receiver's hands (american football) intercept it and knock it over the fence (american cricket).

or to put a sattelite at the right time at the right speed in the right direction in the right place to have it orbit another body, so :.

what ingenious natural & process is it, than can get 9+ zillions bodies to get into the right orbit simultaniously or sequentially and have them remain there for billions of years?

Captain Obvious

You have a goal in mind when you swing a bat or a golf club. Natural history has no goal or desired end product. What happened happened, what is here is what is here.

If you swung a golf club (gravity) at a golf ball (mass) with no particular direction, object or hole to hit at... Would it land in the bushes with onlookers amazed at how it ended up where it did, almost as if it were meant to be?

Galaxies are made up of giant balls of dust that eventually grouped into planets, stars, moons. Their orbits and speeds determined by any number of factors.. None of them being the wishes of a supernatural being.

If it has been set in place by a supernatural being, he's not very good at what he/she/it does.

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Wifey is getting into audiobooks...

by Captain Obvious in

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so i'm a huge audible fan.

i'm always plowing through an audiobook about history, religion, science or money.

imo, no one could ever read/listen to my library and continue to be religious or ignorant of natural history.

Captain Obvious

So I'm a huge Audible fan. I'm always plowing through an audiobook about history, religion, science or money. IMO, no one could ever read/listen to my library and continue to be religious or ignorant of natural history.

Anyway, my lovely JW wife decided she might try listening to some books on her long bus ride to and from work. Being the thoughtful husband I am, I downloaded the Audible app on her phone and showed her how to use it... On my account. My recommendation for her first listen?

The Magic of Reality.

She didn't start for a few weeks, but the other night while we were getting into bed she mentions that she had started the book. She said its "interesting..." In an apprehensive way. I think she's interested in all this "true" stuff but is nervous to find out that she and everyone she knows have been wrong her whole life! Exciting times.

Anyway, thought I'd share another small successful step. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I WILL help her get out. I'm willing to play the long game, as long as it takes. She's too amazing to just give up on just because of her beliefs.

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Watch as JWs are 'educated' by their 'bible student' about evolution, abiogenesis, Watchtower quote mining, etc. LOL.

by Island Man in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mblywsowuvi&list=uuzmjy8ccss1_0sswprk4yia&feature=c4-overview.

Captain Obvious

Pete7... Was your bachelors in biology like... An honorary thing? No biologist would have said what you just did. None.

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Anyone interested in free Bart Ehrman's "Miquoting Jesus" & "Gods Problem" audio books? Great books.

by whereami in

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Captain Obvious

With all of the scholarship and work that has gone into Ehrman's books, not to mention the enlightenment they offer to so many people.. I'd rather pay for them thanks.

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Do you pray over your meals? If so why? If not, when did you stop and why?

by BU2B in

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to answer my question, no i do not pray over meals anymore exept for when i am with other jws i do a 15 second head bow for appearances sake.

i just came to the realization god had nothing to do with whether i ate or not.

many believers are starving right now whilst many non-believers are eating like kings.. also why should god give me food while he lets little children in dprk concentration camps starve to death.

Captain Obvious

Last i prayed over a meal was many months ago with my wife... Right before I told her that was the last prayer I would every give. It started. A really nice conversation actually! It's all in how you come across.

I gave gave up prayer when I realized I was just praying to myself.

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On a Scale of 1 to 10---How Devoted Were You To Being One of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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as i grew up in the religion, i was a 10. i wanted to be made a "servant" because that was instilled in me from infancy.

i diligently studied ever piece of watchtower literature and defended my religion intensely.. when i got into my 30's, i started to see little cracks in the watchtower's surface but decided to "wait on jehovah".

then i started to research a little more critically and realized i couldn't defend the prophecies, the treatment of people and the hypocrisy that was becoming more obvious, that especially an elder can see.. it was a gradual thing---from a 10 to a zero!.

Captain Obvious

Mostly 3. Never more than a 4. Once I discovered the vagina, .005. I thought most of it was true, but hoped it wasn't. I always ALWAYS resented being raised as a JW, but followed along because it was all I knew. You could say I was destined to become an apostate.

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Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

by leaving_quietly in

wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

" in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

Captain Obvious

Badfish - pretty much. It lands on 1914 cause of no zero year. And yes, no taking 360 day years into account.

You might want to focus now a bit on the 607 date... I challenge you to find ONE secular or even just non-JW reference to 607bce as the date that Jerusalem fell. Just one.

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Don't let your job interfere with your meeting attendance

by Quarterback in

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recently, a public speaker brought up this point that i remembered being preached in the 70's.

when they bring this matter up, they always manage to give you an experience of how one person stood his ground, and got a great job offer, as a result.. what about the many experiences of ones that were not blessed?

i can memtion horror stories of ones that should have kept working their meetings..

Captain Obvious

Easy for someone to say when they go in service and give talks for a living.

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Is there going to be a 2014 district convention?

by booker-t in

i have heard rumors for over a year now that the wt is not going to have a 2014 dc.

i know they are having a circuit assembly and special day talk assembly but what about their yearly dc.

has anybody heard anything?.

Captain Obvious

Yep, we get to make a 7 hour trip each way this year for the 3 day bore fest. Yippee.

The only ones who say there won't be a 2014 convention are the ones who actually think that the big A will come before then.

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A Purpose

by DeWandelaar in

"everything in life has a purpose" is something a lot of (religious) people tend to say.

i used to believe that too... but i have always been wandering about animals, bacteria and everthing around us.

what purpose is there?

Captain Obvious

Well you should already know this, but bacteria serve a very important purpose in decomposition and digestion. Right now you have more bacteria living inside you than you can imagine. You need them there.

Animals? Well they're tasty, so there's that...

But purpose IS a human invention. There is no end goal or purpose. We just happen to be living in this time period right now.